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hey there [Jan. 9th, 2005|11:56 am]
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Hi, I just joined this community because I'm hoping it will help. I'm trying to find information about moving to England, either permanently or on a work Visa but I really don't know how to go about it. I've done a few web searches but haven't come up with much. I've decided I don't want to be American anymore. You can't choose where you're born but you can choose where you live. I hate Bush and where this country is going (or not going, rather?). I hate how everyone talks about protesting and stuff and then nobody does anything. I hate how nobody seems to be doing anything about it. I'm afraid Bush is the downfall of this country and I want no part of it; I don't want to be part of a country that the rest of the world hates because of all the stupid shit our governement has done in the name of freedom and religion. I've lost faith in this country. I hear Tony Blair is in tight with Bush, but I honestly don't know much about him. Still, it can't be as bad as here. I like the idea of health care for everyone. I'm reasonably sure I'd fit in well in England; I like British people and I love how they're all so polite, at least the ones I've met. Better than all the assholes over here anyway. (Being a Harry Potter fan may have something to do with it as well. XD) I have about a year of school left here; what I'd like to do is finish school and then go to England and find a job. I'm studying music, majoring in instrumental performance; I also work at a music store repairing instruments, which I really like, and I'm also an artist. I'd be happy if I could find some sort of work related to that over there. When I think about my future career I picture myself in England, not here. I guess ideally what I'm looking for is to get a work Visa and then marry someone over there. Any help you guys can give will be greatly appreciated!
Cheers! (You see, I'm already picking up on British expressions and culture :-D)

[User Picture]From: pat_rieger
2005-01-12 10:05 am (UTC)
There's not much I can tell you about moving there, beside it being tough (my family and I have considered it but haven't looked into it deeply), but I can tell you you may want to look into Scotland instead of England. Scotland is a lot cheaper than England, particularly anywhere near London. Awesome city but one of the most expensive to live in in the world.

Check out
on BBC America sometime, it'll give you an idea of how much it costs to live in various parts of the UK.
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[User Picture]From: pat_rieger
2005-01-12 10:15 am (UTC)
I just remembered, there is also Return To Scotland.

Also, look for articles regarding the European Union's recently ratified constitution, it goes a long way towards supporting the values of liberals/progressives, such as environmental protection, equal rights, stopping racism, etc.
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From: ex_brainles
2005-01-17 10:44 am (UTC)
That's funny shit. Moving to the UK is like leaving the United States for a shittier version of the United States. Wouldn't you want to mobe somewhere that actually, I don't know, actually fits your beliefs? The "polite" thing is the best. You'll be in for a rude awakening.
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From: lady_cleo
2005-01-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
If you can't say anything nice, then go fuck yourself.
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From: ex_brainles
2005-01-17 03:29 pm (UTC)
Ironic comment. It's just funny that you want to leave the US for a country that engaged in a pre-emptive war, whose people engage in empty protest, that continues occupations of several of it's former colonies, and that actually was the evil empire that so many people wish to claim the US to be. Of course, they are close to reversing their socialized healthcare so at least that is a plus.

It's just funny shit. Just show how uniformed Americans are - dumb fuckers deserve what you got.
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From: lady_cleo
2005-01-17 05:47 pm (UTC)
You're pretty funny too considering you live in the US, unless you're lying on your info page. Go be an asshole somewhere else.
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[User Picture]From: baseproduct
2005-01-19 03:32 pm (UTC)
As much as it pains me to agree with Brainlesswonder, do some research on this before you move. England is not "Jolly Farms", nor is it Hogwarts. Not everyone is polite and well-mannered- there are still a lot of assholes. The National Health is in shambles. Also, while I'm not sure about how Britain handles their immigration (being a natural-born subject), if it's on a points system like Australia and New Zealand you're going to need a more marketable skill than instrument repair to get in.

My advice to you, as someone who has lived both lives and made his choice, is to stay here and try to fix the things you don't like. Understand that all the liberals, progressives, democrats, and other undeclared leftists need only convince 3,500,001 to win the next election (and in reality, less than that). Your minority is not small. If you run, you're shirking your duty to your country and those who stand with you.

Give it some thought. If you're looking for a liberal paradise, move to Norway.
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From: lady_cleo
2005-01-19 04:38 pm (UTC)
Hmm, well I'll definitely consider that; that was why I posted in the first place, to get more information. At least you were polite about it. :)
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